The Forward Pull

That really speaks to their ethos of “every molecule counts.” They undoubtedly feel the molecules more closely than our engineers.

That’s a common thread about other Herman Miller designers, too. When we get designers that are too compliant, we consider it a weak spot—it sets off a warning bell. We wonder if this individual has enough conviction around their idea to actually lead us to a better place. It’s kind of a funny relationship that we have with designers. At one level, we want them to provoke us. When they over-provoke us, we get upset like we can’t do what they’re asking for, and we wonder why they don’t understand the limits of reality. And if they don’t provoke us far enough, what’s the point—where’s their backbone?

When 7.5 works with our engineers, they want to do a lot of the preliminary engineering work themselves. They come with their own pre-established proof statements because they sense they may encounter negative feedback. You wouldn’t believe some of the contraptions they’ve made in their own studio. We have an industry chair base requirement for 2,500 pounds. A few years ago we were trying to get a beautifully designed wood base to pass the test, but being made of natural, fibrous materials, we couldn’t get it to pass. Meanwhile 7.5 built this elaborate test fixture where they were pouring water into a big vat to get it to the right weight. Then they were channeling it to the right spot on the chair base. It was bizarre, but they were going to do the testing themselves because they didn’t trust even how we did the test. If anybody dares say no to what they’re trying to do, they’ll work twice as hard to prove their point before they come to us. It’s amazing.

Now that Mirra 2 is complete and out in the world, how do you see Herman Miller’s relationship with Studio 7.5 evolving?

I think of 7.5 as the best seating designers in the world. In an earlier time, I would have said that of [the late] Bill Stumpf. It was interesting to see the interplay with Stumpf when he was still alive. There was a common bond about the mystery of seating and discussion about where you can take it.

Studio 7.5 has some aspirations of higher levels of ergonomic performance with amazing adaptations of material that enable the performance in a natural—almost biomimetic—way. They are passionate about the problem. They’re in a groove, where those four individuals are perfecting their craft and striving for some outstanding performance. You’ll also see that in some other products—they are not just capable at seating, they can solve problems in different realms.

I think the real magic of 7.5’s future is how they will blend material innovation with their own ideas and problem-solving design. They don’t just make a chair overnight in response to a brief. In fact, we don’t give them a brief. They are ahead of us, pulling us.